More leavers??

[Rossm]

Don't think anyone saw McIntyre leaving! real shame but he hasn't really played much rugby in the last 2 years with injuries so maybe its a good time to let him go?


Personally speaking and I know I am being wise after the event, but I'm not actually surprised (but sad) that Chesty is off. With all his assorted injuries, particularly concussion issues, I expected we would have been reluctant to continue with another contract. I think it may be a sensible move for him to decide enough is enough.

[MarleyWasp]

The more I read on this the more I think the scenario is that Wasps possibly wanted to retain McIntyre but ZZ is still in contract. So we lose McIntyre and retain ZZ by dint of that.

I think that sums it up. Whilst we could have paid up ZZ's contract it would have counted as part of the cap.

Interesting snippet from Bobby's article:

However, the official Wasps announcement - and an image that was published on social media by a player last night before being swiftly deleted - did not contain the names/faces of three players understood to be at the end of their current deals in Theo Vukasinovic, Rob Miller and Ben Morris - raising hopes that they could be remaining with the Black and Golds.

[DGP Wasp]

Best of luck to all 3, but special mention to McIntyre who has been a fantastic servant to the club through good times and bad (including really, really bad!).

Not entirely surprised he's off though.  Given how much time he's lost to injury in recent seasons, and the money he's likely to be on given his time with the club he can't be giving especially good value for money.  It's a shame as he is a true Wasps legend.  No room for sentiment when the club are looking at contracts though.

10 years have flown by!  Made his debut off the bench at Sandy Park in Sept 2011, replacing Bob Baker in a team that included Riki Flutey, Tim Payne and Richard Birkett just to give an idea of how long ago that was!

[WonkyWasp]

I am very sorry  that Si Mac might be leaving, tho' given al his injuries lately  maybe that is understandable.  I would be very sorry to lose Rob Miller and extremely reluctant to say farewell to Ben Morris who has played so superbly this season.

[Neils]

I am very sorry  that Si Mac might be leaving, tho' given al his injuries lately  maybe that is understandable.  I would be very sorry to lose Rob Miller and extremely reluctant to say farewell to Ben Morris who has played so superbly this season.

Likewise. However Rob did get a contract extension but nobody knows how long. Ben being suspended may be under the surgeon for a nose fix. I would be sad if he goes because he has never, in my eyes, failed us no matter where he has been put.

[WonkyWasp]

Thanks Neil.

[baldpaul101]

The original photo that JTA put up appeared to be after a ceremony to say good bye. They were all holding Wasps shirts with their numbers & names on which the had just been presented with.

Given that I can't see any other players leaving (Lima must have already gone given his possessions have already moved to France!), fingers crossed!

As others have said, shame if Wasps are paying ZZ but he's not playing... if thats the case, I would think there's a loop hole somewhere so he can be terminated?

[NellyWellyWaspy]

Don't think anyone saw McIntyre leaving! real shame but he hasn't really played much rugby in the last 2 years with injuries so maybe its a good time to let him go?

Agreed.

[Rossm]

As others have said, shame if Wasps are paying ZZ but he's not playing... if thats the case, I would think there's a loop hole somewhere so he can be terminated?

Not I hope with extreme prejudice That would be just a step too far - even for Wasps

[MarleyWasp]

As others have said, shame if Wasps are paying ZZ but he's not playing... if thats the case, I would think there's a loop hole somewhere so he can be terminated?

Not I hope with extreme prejudice That would be just a step too far - even for Wasps

I think loopholes like that only apply if he's injured.

[wasps]

If McIntyre is leaving because the coaches have decided that we have sufficient quality at LH and that he hasn't played enough recently to warrant another contract when money and salary cap are tight, then I'll be sad, but I'm ok with it

However, if we're letting him go because another player is on a huge salary and has thrown a strop and won't play, then I'd be livid.

I know that ZuZu was an emergency signing when we had very few alternative options, and quite frankly, he played well for us, but if you're a professional player and expect to keep earning your money, then you should do the training as instructed and perform to the best of your abilities at all times.... Anything short suit6 be considered a breach of contract.


I hope I'm doing him a disservice with this post and that we see him attempting drop goals or trying to skin a winger on the outside next season

[BdeB]

Of the 10 confirmed leavers I think there are only 3 (Taylor, Brookes and maybe Rowlands) that I think we might miss and one (Si Mac) I would keep for sentimental reasons. But even Taylor and Brookes have had their injury absences and probably are quite costly.

[Shugs]

Agreed BdeB. I like our recruitment this year. The players you highlight will be missed. But when you break it down I see it as:
McIntyre: Great servant but limited game time of late so Hislop replaces. Unproven but likely to be available more.
Brookes: Back spasms and other injuries becoming frequent. Great in the scrum, not so elsewhere. Scholtz looks like for like but again, has less miles on the clock.
Taylor: Been good last few weeks but often out before. Well stocked here with Cruse, Oghre, Frost and Barbeary.
Rowlands: Pretty much like for like with Stooke but no international interruption likely for Stooke.
You throw in the other bits like Mehson, Crossdale and Millar-Mills plus whoever is to come and I think we're stronger.

[Tervueren]

https://www.wasps.co.uk/news/georgian-pair-to-leave-wasps-at-the-end-of-the-season/

[Neils]

https://www.wasps.co.uk/news/georgian-pair-to-leave-wasps-at-the-end-of-the-season/

One expensive prop and a promising lock now gone. A bit surprising.