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Match Thread
« on: October 16, 2021, 12:50:56 PM »
Bit early but...

What to expect from this? A fully firing Exeter against our much damaged squad. Personally I think it might be too much however our defence has taken a major upswing so if it stays dry we may see our fast backs prosper. They have speedsters of their own.

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2021, 12:56:40 PM »
Indeed. Don't kick it to Hogg.

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2021, 12:59:21 PM »
Simply we need to focus on defence and clearing our lines. Not aimless hoofs, but good kicking that forces Exeter to start any possession in their own half. Of course keep heads up and if it’s on in our 22 back ourselves. But if we are sloppy in discipline and over play it will be a long afternoon. Focus on nailing the basics before anything else.

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2021, 01:12:38 PM »
I'm sure Dan Frost will be looking forward to going head to head with Cowan-Dickie.
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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2021, 01:33:03 PM »
Indeed. Don't kick it to Hogg.

And, just in case anybody is in ANY doubt, don't kick it to Hogg.

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2021, 01:50:55 PM »
Indeed. Don't kick it to Hogg.

And, just in case anybody is in ANY doubt, don't kick it to Hogg.

The concern for us is kicking to any of their back three..if Nowell if truly fit, then there is danger all over. But we will need to clear our lines/half and kicking to touch means conceding field position more often than not.

So do we try and play in a "damage limitation" style and hope we get ball to run or do we push like we normally would, as playing conservatively means we'll probably lose anyway?

Glad I don't have to make these choices!

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2021, 02:10:32 PM »
Indeed. Don't kick it to Hogg.

And, just in case anybody is in ANY doubt, don't kick it to Hogg.

The concern for us is kicking to any of their back three..if Nowell if truly fit, then there is danger all over. But we will need to clear our lines/half and kicking to touch means conceding field position more often than not.

So do we try and play in a "damage limitation" style and hope we get ball to run or do we push like we normally would, as playing conservatively means we'll probably lose anyway?

Glad I don't have to make these choices!

Just so. One area of transition from defence to attack that we fail miserably, and have for years and years, is the kick chase, which couple in to having a scrum half (box kick) and full back (field kick) to be so accurately placed that a kick chase can be effective. In that regard, my argument is that a team like Saracens is or were the Kings. We are not. Indeed, one might argue that, for Dan, that is the one area he has failed to impress. Not entirely his fault, as he can kick perfectly all the time, but if the chase is not there, he is wasting his time.

So, one area of defense that is not yet working. Tackling, line speed/cohesion, jackaling, kick chase, maul defence. All areas of defense that a truly successful team needs. Without Jack, we have lost a lot of the jackaling. Kick chase is poor, and with sign of improving, and maul defense seems quite weak. A work in progress.

Given those weaknesses, trapped in our own 22 with possession, there are no good options. In a way, you will know we have partially cracked it when teams don't want to kick to us. Which is why I am puzzled at Crossdale being on the bench. Watson doesn't offer any obvious skills in counter attack (or none that I have seen). He simply runs and gets tackled, often away from backup. Very frustrating.

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2021, 03:03:22 PM »
First field kick by Umaga. Straight to Hogg.

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2021, 03:05:39 PM »
Fifita - whoa!

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2021, 03:10:35 PM »
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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2021, 03:11:03 PM »
Superb pass from Umaga to Fifita for that break.

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2021, 03:13:35 PM »
Can't really argue against that being a yellow.

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2021, 03:16:50 PM »
So Barnes is allowing anything goes at the maul post lineout? Poor

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2021, 03:19:16 PM »
So Barnes is allowing anything goes at the maul post lineout? Poor

For me it was one of those where he could have pinged them, but none of them really had a material impact. If it stays constantly reffed like that this game, OK, if not I'll get upset.

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Re: Match Thread
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2021, 03:21:58 PM »
My view is - like Hill being warned for hands in ruck just after - is that not taking action, merely means players have an incentive to push further than if the ref pings early doors. It was the subject of the BT commentary team last weekend where the ref kept warning people infringing in the ruck and it resulted in slow ball. And the game being played contrary to what WR wants.