A quick post,
First please remember to be polite. While Sam is making his(her?) points in a courteous way I'm certainly not going to treat them the same as the crap Grendel spouted.
Secondly thread drift happens. Any post that gets multiple pages inevitably changes topic along the way. I get that some people don't want to read an ongoing debate about the respectiev owners of the the two clubs at the CBS Arena, but it doesn't do any harm
Sam, I have no issues with Derek making money, in fact I hope he makes a ridiculously, disgustingly big amount from Wasps. I see no contradiction in being a nice person, and making money. Derek genuinely loves the game, and he regularly goes out of his way to do things for people that he has no need to. I first met him when my son was given the all clear after a year of Chemotherapy and he contacted me to invite the whole family up to a game and to meet the players. He had no reason to, but he did.