Stick with us Sam. I think you've had a bit of a baptism of fire, but hang in there .... er, not in the fire tho'. We've really imo been amazed by the weird behaviour of Grendal and his/her/their ilk and I think we've got a bit suspicious of newbies. Unfairly sometimes. Blame Grendal - why not. I expect I'm speaking out of turn here but it's how I feel Thanks VV for using the guillotine where necessary.