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Re: Our former tenants
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2022, 11:41:34 AM »
Coventry City: Mike Ashley's Frasers Group serve stadium eviction notice - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63858805

Bet this reporter is pig sick!

When I read this, I laughed so much the tears ran down my goitre
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Re: Our former tenants
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2022, 12:02:24 PM »
I suspect it’s little more than a heavy handed way of getting them to sign a new rent agreement. However SISU aren’t normal people.

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Re: Our former tenants
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2022, 12:34:58 PM »
SISU have been hoist with their  own petard.  Also they have been completely  out-played  be a total professional. And they were warned. Family thoughts are that Ashley is aiming to buy it for  £1.

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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2022, 12:39:16 PM »
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Re: Our former tenants
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2022, 12:53:02 PM »
Wasps had identified major issues at the stadium meaning it needed (at Least £20m) spending on it. That is why he got it so cheap.

This was reported by some of the SBT, but I don't think we ever saw anything publicaly referenced about it - Where has the figure come from and what's the issues at the Stadium?

Wasps had approached the council for a grant to undertake the work, as they were the owners. The council responded saying it was the responsibility of the tenants (leaseholders) to fix any issues. It was one of many reasons it all folded like a house of cards.

MA would know all this, and thus knew the stadium was worth so little.

The thing is this. Mike Ashley likely doesn't care if any sport is being played. He can hire out the rooms, the hotel brings in money, the casino could be expanded (in to the space that was the 'clubhouse').

He can cover the pitch over and make it a permanent open venue for concerts and monster truck rallies. Fact is, I doubt he cares one jot about CCFC. If they want to play there, he might simply say, sell me the club for £1 and YOU clear all debts before you sell it to me. Otherwise, stop bothering me and go play somewhere else. My toys, my rules.

It's a hard world out there. No more Mr Nice guy that they had with Wasps.

Would the council let him knock it down? Why should they care? The stadium owes them little or nothing. Tescos and the EU paid for most of it, and the rest of the debt the Wasps bond holders paid off. Not being used, it brings little to the city. Knocked down and converted to his HQ would bring hundreds of jobs that otherwise were going to Warwickshire. Not used as a Stadium, means the rest of the land could also be used as something other than a car park or waste land.

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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2022, 01:06:48 PM »
Wasps had approached the council for a grant to undertake the work, as they were the owners. The council responded saying it was the responsibility of the tenants (leaseholders) to fix any issues. It was one of many reasons it all folded like a house of cards.

Was this what the mooted £13m grant application was for? (that was discussed but never formally applied for?)

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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2022, 01:27:37 PM »
Wasps had approached the council for a grant to undertake the work, as they were the owners. The council responded saying it was the responsibility of the tenants (leaseholders) to fix any issues. It was one of many reasons it all folded like a house of cards.

Was this what the mooted £13m grant application was for? (that was discussed but never formally applied for?)

Yes, but I think the total repairs needed came closer to the £20m, part of which Wasps had hoped the council would pay (not a chance). I got the feeling at the time that the various works done over the years had highlighted the issues as needing doing soon (builders being what they are, they noticed other stuff when being paid to do something else. Same with car mechanics. You pay one to change a tyre, and they tell you that a suspension joint needs replacing. You don't trust them, so get it checked, and, more often than not, they were right.

I know Wasps will have paid for surveys etc, but they never do much other than look. If something is buried under something else, they aren't going to see it.

On a side note, I wonder how the Coventry Building Society are feeling right now?

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Re: Our former tenants
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2022, 01:29:56 PM »
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He can cover the pitch over and make it a permanent open venue for concerts and monster truck rallies. Fact is, I doubt he cares one jot about CCFC.
My thoughts as well. He knows what a pain in the backside it is owning a football club and the fans would never warm to him so why would he bother, even for £1?

The Millennium Dome doesn’t need a football team to be profitable.

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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2022, 01:45:28 PM »
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He can cover the pitch over and make it a permanent open venue for concerts and monster truck rallies. Fact is, I doubt he cares one jot about CCFC.
My thoughts as well. He knows what a pain in the backside it is owning a football club and the fans would never warm to him so why would he bother, even for £1?

The Millennium Dome doesn’t need a football team to be profitable.

But he was in for Derby County recently wasn’t he, so thought he did want back into the football world, playing the long game maybe with CCFC.

In the mean time, I assume the Harry Styles et Al gigs are still on and if there aren’t any sports games on in May and September now that gig and event season can be extended hugely.
Must still be very profitable running events as mentioned with the millennium Dome, the NEC were keen in the stadium for the same reason.

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Re: Our former tenants
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2022, 01:48:01 PM »


Can't stop laughing at this.
And If you really want to make yourself feel better, look at the reaction when they took down the Wasps signs....

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Re: Our former tenants
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2022, 02:21:08 PM »
Person on Twitter saying that the council should "enforce the clause that CCFC must be permitted to play at the CBS or the leasehold reverts to the council"
Anyone have any idea if such a clause exists & if it does why was it not raised before?

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Re: Our former tenants
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2022, 02:39:43 PM »
Person on Twitter saying that the council should "enforce the clause that CCFC must be permitted to play at the CBS or the leasehold reverts to the council"
Anyone have any idea if such a clause exists & if it does why was it not raised before?

Person on Twitter is living in fantasy land.

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Re: Our former tenants
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2022, 02:55:06 PM »
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Person on Twitter is living in fantasy land.

that would not surprise me  :D

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Re: Our former tenants
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2022, 03:13:33 PM »
Frasers have issued a statement saying that they originally offered CCFC the same terms they had under Wasps and SISU declined to sign it.  Now a revised agreement has been offered and they have declined to sign that as well.
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« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2022, 03:29:00 PM »
Frasers have issued a statement saying that they originally offered CCFC the same terms they had under Wasps and SISU declined to sign it.  Now a revised agreement has been offered and they have declined to sign that as well.

And suddenly it all makes perfect sense.