Rugbypass take on Guardian article

[Neils]

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/deja-vu-all-over-again-for-wasps/

[Heathen]

The circumstances of Paul Smith's departure from Wasps still have mystery attached to them.

[Shugs]

Does he actually say anything - just looks like a list of already known facts.

[Heathen]

I think that all he is saying comparing the ambitions of 2014 with the aims of the new entity.

Ultimately questioning the wisdom of letting history repeat itself.

[Steve from Cov]

People shouldn?t take too much notice of Paul Smith.

[WonkyWasp]

Paul Smith has  simply wasted a lot of time and energy on regurgitating exactly what I and several others said last week.

[baldpaul101]

People shouldn't take too much notice of Paul Smith.

Don't care why he left Wasps or if he has an axe to grind, he's raising many of the concerns that people on here have raised about what was reported in the Guardian article.
We can't continue to just believe everything will be all right & pretend that anyone who doesn't agree is making it up. We did that before & Wasps went bust.
Its time for actual news, not silence & leaked empty plans

[Vespula Vulgaris]

It's pretty clear that the formerly amicable relationship between him and Wasps is no more, but it's pretty hard to disagree with the points he raises.

[Neils]

It's pretty clear that the formerly amicable relationship between him and Wasps is no more, but it's pretty hard to disagree with the points he raises.

However, it is worth pointing out that apart from his own axe grinding most of the points he has raised came from here.

[baldpaul101]

However, it is worth pointing out that apart from his own axe grinding most of the points he has raised came from here.

Or anywhere/anyone else that has read the Guardian article. The suggestion Wasps can play Champ games at Henley for example raises a load of questions that pretty much anyone could think up if they we interested.

[coddy]

As soon as I read the paragraph below it was obvious this was not an unbiased piece of journalism but more of a personal dig.


Depending on your viewpoint, by accepting that Wasps will occupy their fourth home venue since leaving Sudbury, English rugby?s governing body are displaying empathy for a struggling former giant or bending over backwards to support the old boys network.

[NellyWellyWaspy]

However, it is worth pointing out that apart from his own axe grinding most of the points he has raised came from here.

Or anywhere/anyone else that has read the Guardian article. The suggestion Wasps can play Champ games at Henley for example raises a load of questions that pretty much anyone could think up if they we interested.

Epic could barely cope with a visiting team transportation. It has barely enough (actually NOT enough) parking for the home team players. No, there is no way the training ground could or should ever be used for competitive games. There is zero parking nearby and this tiny town is a traffic nightmare at the best of times.

[HDAWG]

He's right though. If this is the proposal accepted by RFU, then both Wasps and RFU are idiots for thinking it would work.

I don't know what the solution is, but based on recent history, it is not this.

[WonkyWasp]

Agreed, Nelly.   

[Egret]

However, it is worth pointing out that apart from his own axe grinding most of the points he has raised came from here.

Or anywhere/anyone else that has read the Guardian article. The suggestion Wasps can play Champ games at Henley for example raises a load of questions that pretty much anyone could think up if they we interested.

Epic could barely cope with a visiting team transportation. It has barely enough (actually NOT enough) parking for the home team players. No, there is no way the training ground could or should ever be used for competitive games. There is zero parking nearby and this tiny town is a traffic nightmare at the best of times.

Here's the thing though - does playing a game of rugby on an outdoor pitch watched by some people (1,2, 25, 250....) require a planning 'change of use' application?

Whilst the errection of a stand and with that, an examination of parking and access arrangements, I suspect just playing a game of rugby with no changes to the infrastructure will not need a change of use.