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It might not be over
« on: May 20, 2023, 09:15:29 PM »
See the Daily Tele, it?s behind a pay wall. Looks very promising though

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2023, 09:23:52 PM »
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Wasps handed sensational late lifeline
Exclusive: Discussions have taken place within RFU and Premiership to keep the brand alive with prospect of a franchise Championship place

By
Gavin Mairs,
 CHIEF RUGBY UNION CORRESPONDENT
20 May 2023 ? 9:00pm
Wasps could be handed an incredible lifeline to prevent the club from becoming extinct, Telegraph Sport can reveal.

It is understood that discussions are taking place at a senior level within Premiership Rugby and the Rugby Football Union about finding a process in which the club could be offered a ?franchise? place to return to the second tier of English rugby within the next five years.

Wasps, one of the most recognisable and successful brands in English club rugby, faced oblivion on Thursday night when the RFU board decided to withdraw the club?s licence to compete in the Championship next season, meaning the four-time English and two-time European champions would have to drop to the bottom of the league pyramid and start next season in Counties 4 Midlands West.

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Wasps were European champions for the second time in 2007 but were facing the prospect of starting next season in the Counties 4 Midland West CREDIT: CARL DE SOUZA/AFP via Getty Images
Chris Holland, who owns the club?s training ground and its intellectual property, had gained approval to play at Solihull Moors FC?s ground and was looking at leasing Worcester?s Sixways stadium as they attempted to secure funding for the club to play in the Championship next season.

It is understood the RFU also attempted to help the club secure funding, including introducing Holland to a potential investor and holding meetings to attempt to get the funding in place. But uncertainty about the future structure of the top two tiers and whether or not promotion and relegation would be retained proved to be a stumbling block.

The RFU rejected Wasps? plea for a 10-day extension to confirm their funding arrangements but the decision was taken after the club were unable to provide assurances on several conditions, including the payment of their rugby creditors and the appointment of a director of rugby.

However, while the decision has devastated those who were attempting to revive the club, it now seems like the door will be left open for their return in ?the medium term? as both PRL and the RFU see the Wasps brand and their supporter base as key to growing the success and status of a rebranded Championship.

With both the Premiership and Championship set to move to a franchise basis as part of the new professional game agreement with the RFU to be signed next year, Wasps could be offered the opportunity to apply for a franchise once the new leagues have ?become established.?

?We need brands like Wasps and Worcester in the Championship and there must be a way in the medium term to bring them back more quickly by restructuring the championship to refranchise them in the right place in the country,? said one senior Premiership source.

 Another senior source said: ?We need strong brands to make Prem 2 viable.?   
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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2023, 09:29:26 PM »
Looks promising but must include Warriors and Irish to be valid

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2023, 09:37:51 PM »
Looks like the RFU trying to counteract some points made by Wasps.
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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2023, 09:49:55 PM »
It?s the hope that kills you!

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2023, 09:51:25 PM »
Yet more making up strategy on the hoof:

1.  We need a 14 team premiership
2.  No, wait. We need a 10 team premiership
3.  Oops, better look like we care about the Championship, so let?s have a cup competition between the two
4.  Phew, we?ve got air cover for ring-fencing
5.  Oh wait, again, we need to set a timetable, so let?s just say soon
6.  Oops, again. Wasps can?t get funding because of the uncertainty we?ve created
7.   Woohoo, problem solved. We?ll rescind Wasps? licence and blame it on the uncertainty for the Championship caused by their slowness in getting funding
8.   Oops, yet again. We seem to have put the game in a death spiral.
9.   No sweat (as Prince Andrew would say) let?s create a franchise system for the Prem and the Championship. Ring-fence the ring-fence. We could call it the Motte and Bailey.

Tune in next week to see if either the PRL or RFU can find its own arse in the dark. Spoiler alert ? they won?t, but they?ll be sure to take some further crass decisions to keep you all entertained.

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2023, 09:53:08 PM »
Flippin' Ada.  Can anyone  now explain all this please??  Is this a cunning escape ploy? by RFU etc??  Have they read the Wuss and Wasps threads?  Have they finally realized that you can't have any Championship with only 10 teams  (or fewer)  and no promotion/demotion?  Have they all been replaced by  rugby fans? ???????????Thank you Neils..

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2023, 10:02:42 PM »
A franchise implies they?re dividing up the country and giving 1 professional club exclusive rights within that area.

No doubt the current sugar daddies will have first dibs and it?s been made clear there?s no room left in London, so exactly where will the exclusive area be because once they?ve set it up nobody is going to want to give up territory or their own franchise without a fight.

My guess is someone doesn?t understand the franchise model of business and yet again they're making it up as they go along.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2023, 06:07:34 AM by Bloke in North Dorset »

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2023, 11:23:50 PM »
Thank you BiND;  very helpful.  It would be interesting to discover what instigated this sudden lurch into action.

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2023, 12:07:13 AM »
Finally working it out- a club with one if the biggest TV audience is not one you can afford to lose.
Ditto, WW and if it comes to it, Irish.

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2023, 01:12:15 AM »
Someone needs to make the RFU make sense!

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2023, 07:55:02 AM »
Someone needs to make the RFU make sense!

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2023, 08:32:17 AM »
Journalistic sensationalism aside this is probably no different to the way the Premier 15s works. Of course the devil will be in the detail and I've zero expectations in the RFU.

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2023, 09:12:54 AM »
They don't know what to do with the championship or prem.
If they push on with the current ideas, they will need all the bankrupt teams to establish a strong tier 2 fully pro. Without that people are not going to start turning up in high thousands across England  to watch semi pro rugby.
The relegated bankrupt teams playing in that competition are almost the only way it will work.

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Re: It might not be over
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2023, 09:57:49 AM »
The article by Sale's Orange owner suggests that the 10 clubs need ?300m over the next five years to survive. (Mail I think).
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