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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2019, 03:54:53 PM »
I assume Hughes (EQP obviously) has a Fijian passport, although he doesn't count as foreign both because of Kolpak, & he's married to an EU citizen.

I assume Brad would qualify for British citizen ship as he has British parents (Is it parents or grand parents, not sure).

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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2019, 04:33:28 PM »
Shields is EQP but you dont need a UK passport to be EQP.Is it possible that he has a NZ passport not UK and therefore is simultaneously foreign and a true-brit? :o

He would qualify for a British passport, and I'm positive it would be a requirement from Wasps that he applies for it, to confirm that they can use him.

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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2019, 05:28:42 PM »
Shields is EQP but you dont need a UK passport to be EQP.Is it possible that he has a NZ passport not UK and therefore is simultaneously foreign and a true-brit? :o

He would qualify for a British passport, and I'm positive it would be a requirement from Wasps that he applies for it, to confirm that they can use him.

Did the Kolpak ruling happen before the Bosman ruling?


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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2019, 08:05:12 PM »
Erm? Did I lock this by accident? Or has it been done for a reason I can't see?

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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2019, 08:18:15 PM »
Wasn't me! Or at least not knowingly...
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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2019, 10:55:38 PM »
I could have clicked it by accident, if so, sorry folks!

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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2019, 09:04:49 PM »
This is a really interesting discussion. If Jeff T-A, Lima and Jimmy (if he doesn’t already have residency) are fit (pretty sure Fekitoa has a Tongan passport) am I right in thinking Jimmy could only be used to replace Lima and Dai has to hope his other LHs are fit as Zvanhia will not be able to play.
And depending on what happens with Brexit all Kolpak bets could be off??

Hope we’ve thought this through as arguably all the above would be in our first choice 23 next season.


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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2019, 09:19:00 PM »
Lima has Samoan heritage so could have a Samoan passport and then i believe covered by kolpak

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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2019, 10:31:46 PM »

You'd think this would all be in hand as we would likely have had similar discussions when we had 2xPiutau's and Jimmy

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« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2019, 11:12:29 PM »

You'd think this would all be in hand as we would likely have had similar discussions when we had 2xPiutau's and Jimmy
Wasn't Smith with us at the same time?
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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2019, 11:52:09 PM »

You'd think this would all be in hand as we would likely have had similar discussions when we had 2xPiutau's and Jimmy
Wasn't Smith with us at the same time?

All 3 of whom likely hold Tongan passports.

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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2019, 08:26:09 AM »
My point was more that it probably came up that it might be an issue, so we're hopefully prepared for it this year

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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2019, 09:40:20 AM »
In this international day and age, many of us are able to apply for passports of more than one country. I would be surprised if Sopoaga, Fekitoa and Toomaga-Allen do NOT have grandparents in one of those Pacific Islands that would allow them to be not internationals under these rules. I suspect that Gopperth could actually be EQP under the rules for the length of time he has lived and played here.

Even in my own family, my daughter and wife can apply for Irish passports (my wife's father is from Dublin). My daughter's English boyfriend was actually born in Germany, lived his early years in Sicily and now lives in England - his parents are both English.

It is the nature of our International world. Flags, nationalities and ethnic labels are starting to become meaningless.

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Re: Signing to be announced at 11.00am - Yes, It's JEFF TOOMAGA-ALLEN!
« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2019, 09:53:43 AM »
Whether Lima has more than one passport or not, at least one of them is a NZ one. He put a picture of him & his families passports on Instagram.

I am comfortable that Wasps are fully aware of the rules. Gone are the days of Trevor having to leave the country while his work p[permit was sorted out & Johnny Barrett being played when he wasn't registered!