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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Saracens docked 35 points
« on: November 07, 2019, 06:45:41 PM »I may well get in contact with the London Borough of Barnet and ask them to take down the large number of Saracens signs around the borough. They never did it for the many football clubs that used to be located in the borough but have now left. Ironically, Barnet FC no longer play in either the borough or disctrict if Barnet.
The local authority essentially owns the new stand until the 2018 loan is repaid and it has a 29 year payback period attached to it. So I guess they have a vested interest in the promotion of the EAs. i.e. demonstrating why they are such a great asset for the citizens and why lending them that sum of money in times of austerity was justified. Now they have to live with the cheating scandal and the fallout, good luck with that.
"The Cheating Borough of Barnet" does have a ring about it!
This is the borough that lost millions in the Icelandic banking saga, lost further millions in a recent fraud case thanks to their outsourcing and, in a comparatively minor instance, wasted £138,000 hosting the Olympic torch (yes, moe than a hundred grand so someone could run down the road, arsing up the traffic whilst holding a metal tube that was on fire).
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Saracens docked 35 points
« on: November 07, 2019, 03:57:41 PM »
Given that Sarries have appealed, it makes sense that they are claiming to have robust grounds for appeal. They'd hardly be using the "oh, go on, it's a nice day and we're all good friends" argument.
As far as HMRC are concerned, I'm not sure what the extra tax liability woul be. Unless the funding for these investments has come in the form of loans at an artificially low interest rate, in which case you might, subject to the structure of the deals, have a benefit in kind of interest below market rate then I can't see anything wrong.
As for whether the players knew or not, you have to distinguish between certain knowledge at a level that would stand up in court and suspicion, however strong that may be.
I may well get in contact with the London Boroough of Barnet and ask them to take down the large number of Saracens signs around the borough. They never did it for the many football clubs that used to be located in the borough but have now left. Ironically, Barnet FC no longer play in either the borough or disctrict if Barnet.
As far as HMRC are concerned, I'm not sure what the extra tax liability woul be. Unless the funding for these investments has come in the form of loans at an artificially low interest rate, in which case you might, subject to the structure of the deals, have a benefit in kind of interest below market rate then I can't see anything wrong.
As for whether the players knew or not, you have to distinguish between certain knowledge at a level that would stand up in court and suspicion, however strong that may be.
I may well get in contact with the London Boroough of Barnet and ask them to take down the large number of Saracens signs around the borough. They never did it for the many football clubs that used to be located in the borough but have now left. Ironically, Barnet FC no longer play in either the borough or disctrict if Barnet.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Saracens docked 35 points
« on: November 06, 2019, 09:11:43 AM »
I keep reading this "admin one-off accident" argumemt.
One occurrence is an accident. Repeated occurrences looks very much like a pattern.
One occurrence is an accident. Repeated occurrences looks very much like a pattern.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Saracens docked 35 points
« on: November 05, 2019, 02:56:59 PM »
According to the Beeb "The club apologised for "administrative errors relating to the non-disclosure of some transactions"".
That's a very poor and slightly worrying attemtp to downplay what's happened.
For the sums of money that are being talked about we are well outside the realms of admin cockups. Amounts like that can only, in any well-run organisation, be made with the approval of senior people, both in terms of approving the authorising document (eg an invoice or contract) and for the actual payment itself.
This isn't a case of someone in accounts paying an invoice twice.
I wonder how the club's sponsors will react.
That's a very poor and slightly worrying attemtp to downplay what's happened.
For the sums of money that are being talked about we are well outside the realms of admin cockups. Amounts like that can only, in any well-run organisation, be made with the approval of senior people, both in terms of approving the authorising document (eg an invoice or contract) and for the actual payment itself.
This isn't a case of someone in accounts paying an invoice twice.
I wonder how the club's sponsors will react.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Streams for watching
« on: November 02, 2019, 04:03:08 PM »https://www.vipboxtv.se/wasps-stream-live
Not too bad.
Looks like there was some confusion to start with.
Must be recent, for the first 30-odd minutes they had no link up.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Streams for watching
« on: November 02, 2019, 03:36:14 PM »
There's one crap stream on Livestream.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Salary Cap
« on: October 27, 2019, 03:47:50 PM »
According to the commentator at the Tigers-Sarries game Sarries have twenty internationals away and still have six in today's team.
Call me a cynic...
Call me a cynic...
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Match thread - spoilers
« on: October 26, 2019, 11:18:40 PM »
What worries me is that we appear to have traded down for a couple of years. How many of the players who left have been replaced by better players?
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Scrum Time.
« on: October 24, 2019, 06:55:09 PM »
I get hacked off when scrums have to be continually reset in the last ten minutes of a game as one side tries to run down the clock.
Maybe when the clock gets to 70 minutes the ref should be able to stop it once he awards a scrum and only restart it when the ball is properly back in play.
Maybe when the clock gets to 70 minutes the ref should be able to stop it once he awards a scrum and only restart it when the ball is properly back in play.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wales v England
« on: August 18, 2019, 12:03:23 PM »
England were lacking several key players - Cips, Robson.....
It was dull stuff, wasn't it?
It was dull stuff, wasn't it?
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: DW site
« on: July 25, 2019, 06:57:12 PM »
The DW site used to be fantastic. When we had Tuesday lunchtime chat sessions it really felt like a community.
Everything - the club, the sport, the people - has moved on since then. Whether it's been for the best is a matter of opinion.
Everything - the club, the sport, the people - has moved on since then. Whether it's been for the best is a matter of opinion.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: The Glaws game
« on: March 23, 2019, 07:49:47 PM »Let's not turn this thread into the sort of argument that saw people leave DW.
Some people think Dai is the problem, some don't. 1 poor season does not a terrible DOR make in my opinion.
Now who can honestly say they expected to see us win today? Because unless you genuinely thought we'd win it is ridiculous to slate the team for losing.
I don't think it's a question of a poor season.
We've been shipping points for several years, it's just that we had the scoring prowess to make it less than critical. We've lost that scoring prowess and not, it would seem, done much to arrest the defensive problems. And it's biting us on the bum (and everywhere else that would be painful).
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: When Another Wasp was England's 15.
« on: March 22, 2019, 04:28:20 PM »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsMdyjLUsxQ
Anyone imagine ED (or many others for that matter) making that tackle? Mind you, at 5ft 11in and 13st 10lbs, Fast Eddie would not consider him for England as he would be too small
It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog.
Not that I would ever suggest that there's anything canine about Josh.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: World Rugby proposing some new laws after RWC.
« on: March 22, 2019, 11:43:00 AM »I agree West Wales Wasp, I can easily see strong attacking positions from just inside your own half being scuppered in favour of kicks to touch to attempt more rolling mauls.,
Maul laws would be the ones I’d look at first
I agree about rolling mauls - as far as I can see they are just ways of getting round the obstruction laws.
Also, if player safety is paramount anyone wishing to join a ruck must have both feet on the ground at the moment they join to prevent the "flying missile" cleanouts.
The "flying misslie" thing gets my goat in a way that not much else does. there should also be serious research into how far you can do this, I've got tired of seeing players whacked back into the next postcode.