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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2022, 10:08:16 PM »
I just wonder how much non playing 'issues' are affecting the players thinking at the moment. I hope that they are being given the the respect and facts that they deserve.

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2022, 08:55:58 AM »
I just wonder how much non playing 'issues' are affecting the players thinking at the moment. I hope that they are being given the the respect and facts that they deserve.

Haha, I started this thread to talk about something other than the "non-playing issues" :)

FWIW, on the back-row debate, I think Nemo is criminally under-used. He's a serious player, ex-Springbok, and can't get a look in at the moment!

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2022, 08:59:15 AM »
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I think Nemo is criminally under-used.

Don't disagree but when you have Brad, Jack & Tom/Alfie, who do you drop for him?

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2022, 09:00:55 AM »
I just wonder how much non playing 'issues' are affecting the players thinking at the moment. I hope that they are being given the the respect and facts that they deserve.

Haha, I started this thread to talk about something other than the "non-playing issues" :)

FWIW, on the back-row debate, I think Nemo is criminally under-used. He's a serious player, ex-Springbok, and can't get a look in at the moment!


Carr's problem here is his versatility.
He's seen as very good in all 3 back row positions, but is he better than our existing options in any one of them?




Would you drop Shields for Carr at 6?
Jack is presumably our starting 7
I feel Tom is better specialist No.8
Alfie has an X factor that few others have




As soon as any one of this is unavailable, Carr steps up, plays any position and we don't feel any weaker, but in a must win game I'd struggle not to start Brad, Jack and Tom

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2022, 09:01:59 AM »
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I think Nemo is criminally under-used.

Don't disagree but when you have Brad, Jack & Tom/Alfie, who do you drop for him?


Yeah, what he said.... But I used more words

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2022, 09:02:09 AM »
Ah, that's why Lee is paid to make those decisions and I'm not!

I'd probably advocate more rotation. I know we were forced into decisions last term by who wasn't broken, but if we have the luxury of choice then we can give Nemo more game time and rest Tom and Alfie more. Brad too, he played a phenomenal number of games last time.


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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2022, 09:22:59 AM »
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I'd probably advocate more rotation.

Again, don't disagree, but most players:
a. want to play every week
b, often need to play every week to keep their performance levels up

hopefully a fit squad will mean any players with niggles or minor injuries can be rested and there's quality players to come in for them.

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2022, 10:46:58 AM »
Given our strengths and weaknesses is it feasible for Carr to play second row? I vaguely recall this happening at some point - although maybe as an emergency mid game. Completely agree about his under use - he’s a fantastic player.

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2022, 11:29:21 AM »
Given our strengths and weaknesses is it feasible for Carr to play second row? I vaguely recall this happening at some point - although maybe as an emergency mid game. Completely agree about his under use - he’s a fantastic player.


It would be more likely Brad has a stint in the 2nd row than Nemo.

I fancy Kibirige to get his form back this season leaving Odogwu to have a proper go at nailing down the Outside Centre berth.

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2022, 12:04:06 PM »
Given our strengths and weaknesses is it feasible for Carr to play second row? I vaguely recall this happening at some point - although maybe as an emergency mid game. Completely agree about his under use - he’s a fantastic player.


It would be more likely Brad has a stint in the 2nd row than Nemo.

I would think so too.

I fancy Kibirige to get his form back this season leaving Odogwu to have a proper go at nailing down the Outside Centre berth.

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2022, 01:29:16 PM »
Given our strengths and weaknesses is it feasible for Carr to play second row? I vaguely recall this happening at some point - although maybe as an emergency mid game. Completely agree about his under use - he’s a fantastic player.


It would be more likely Brad has a stint in the 2nd row than Nemo.

I fancy Kibirige to get his form back this season leaving Odogwu to have a proper go at nailing down the Outside Centre berth.

Can't see us starting Brad in the second row unless we've (again) got major injury issues. He's a big lad, but not "lock" big!


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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2022, 06:13:45 PM »
Had a good chat with one of Wasps "back room" staff today who was very positive about a lot of the points that we have all been a bit "concerned" about.

Hopefully quite a bit of "positive news" to be released up to the start of the season.

Also it seems that Jacob's injury isn't as bad as first thought so really hope that is the case for his and everyone else's sake as well.

The players have all had their photo's done and had a day at a water park and Stookie is walking OK so presumably starting rehab on a similar basis to Jack, Launchers and Theo last year.

Looking forward to the season now!

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2022, 06:54:26 PM »
I see Michael van Vuuren and Zac Nearchou have been added to the squad.

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/wasps-discuss-long-term-future-24803460

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2022, 08:12:50 PM »
Van Vuuren made a good impression I think - gives us 4 hookers which is quite a lot.

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Re: Squad 22/23
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2022, 09:07:07 PM »
Maybe allows Oghre to cover the back row when/if needed.