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Re: EAs again
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2020, 09:31:43 PM »
Let off with a fine £50k half suspended no point deduction.
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Re: EAs again
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2020, 09:39:17 PM »
Given Racing's earlier response I'm sure they'll push for more. Can't imagine they'll get far though.

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Re: EAs again
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2020, 09:48:05 PM »
I'd say the outcome is fair, not like they tried to sneak in a new player for that game as he was and still is a long serving player.

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Re: EAs again
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2020, 10:22:49 PM »
Long term cheats cheat again and get away with it.

You'd have thought they might pay a bit more attention all things considered.
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Re: EAs again
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2020, 06:34:37 AM »
Long term cheats cheat again and get away with it.

You'd have thought they might pay a bit more attention all things considered.
50k euro fine. Half that suspended. Zero points deduction.
Verdict was bizzare.
"Player eligible when team announced" ...but not the next day! ." honest admin mistake"...lol...this board predicted they would conclude that.
EAs have sunk to an all time low. Cheating and being allowed to get away with it.
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Re: EAs again
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2020, 07:21:47 AM »

Do Saracens gain an advantage by not renewing someone's work permit?

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Re: EAs again
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2020, 07:33:46 AM »

Do Saracens gain an advantage by not renewing someone's work permit?

Do Saracens gain an advantage by playing a player that is not eligible to play?

I don't believe for a second that no one noticed his work permit had expired,
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Re: EAs again
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2020, 07:58:15 AM »

Do Saracens gain an advantage by not renewing someone's work permit?

Do Saracens gain an advantage by playing a player that is not eligible to play?

I don't believe for a second that no one noticed his work permit had expired,


VV... I can't argue at all that they don't gain an advantage by fielding an illegible player.
And given everything that has occurred to date it's hard to have any sympathy for the club.

What I'm wondering though is do they gain any advantage by not renewing his work permit?

If they did know about it, and purposely allowed it to lapse, what would be their end game? What advantage are they trying to gain?

If there was some rule that allowed him to be replaced in the European squad if his work permit expires then I can definitely see that they may have purposely chosen to turn a blind eye to it.
However, on the face of it, I just don't see that they gain any possible advantage at all by not getting his work permit renewed

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Re: EAs again
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2020, 08:33:53 AM »
You do wonder if their administration is so bad that they couldn't have informed the Euro authorities on the monday after the Racing match. They had to renew his Visa because he has continued to play eg last night. Was part of their defence the number of supporters who had already shelled out for the match. You do wonder if somebody was about to blow the whistle on them so they acted first. It still stinks.
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2020, 10:09:40 AM »
I have been as critical of Sarries as anyone but I am prepered to believe this was a genuine admin error.  The visa was in place when they selected their team and only expired the day before the game as I understand it.  I am prepared to believe the player had forgotten about his visa expiry.  I have a Blue Badge and it expired without me knowing because of my own admin error.  These things do happen innocently, unlike their premiership transgressions. 

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Re: EAs again
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2020, 10:13:00 AM »
Why does his work permit (visa) come up for renewal mid-season?
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Re: EAs again
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2020, 10:29:18 AM »
Why does his work permit (visa) come up for renewal mid-season?

Presumably because that's the time of year when it was granted originally.

Didn't he play last night though? Which must mean they quickly re-applied for the work visa to be renewed immediately.

On this occasion it does appear to be a genuine mistake though, perhaps on the players part

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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2020, 10:44:50 AM »
The trouble I'm aving with this is that it would take the Team Manager all of a minute to put in several reminders in his diary to make sure work permits are renewed on time. It would take 10 minutes to set up a spreadsheet showing each player that needs a work permit and when theirs is due to expire. It's such a simple thing to keep on top of.

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Re: EAs again
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2020, 11:49:52 AM »
Maybe they can get Itoje et al to pay it to contra the salary cap breach.  ;)

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Re: EAs again
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2020, 12:51:02 PM »
I have been as critical of Sarries as anyone but I am prepered to believe this was a genuine admin error.  The visa was in place when they selected their team and only expired the day before the game as I understand it.  I am prepared to believe the player had forgotten about his visa expiry.  I have a Blue Badge and it expired without me knowing because of my own admin error.  These things do happen innocently, unlike their premiership transgressions.

I could be wrong, but I suspect you don't have anyone working in HR for you who would be directly responsible for this sort if thing.
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