EAs again

[Neils]

EPCR charging them with playing an inelligible player. Hearing tonight apparently.  As relayed by RiL and others.

[Chilham]

Unreal.

[mike909]

BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51415778

[Tervueren]

According to RugbyPass "The last occasion EPCR heard a similar misconduct case, Scarlets were fined €10,000 – a punishment suspended for two years – and the result of their match – a 14-64 Januaruy 2016 pool stage defeat to Racing – was allowed to stand." so [sadly] looks like they won't get dumped out

[Mikeuk56]

 "Due to an inadvertent administrative error on behalf of the club" Again!!!

[Sting]

According to RugbyPass "The last occasion EPCR heard a similar misconduct case, Scarlets were fined €10,000 – a punishment suspended for two years – and the result of their match – a 14-64 Januaruy 2016 pool stage defeat to Racing – was allowed to stand." so [sadly] looks like they won't get dumped out

Or they may get the same treatment we got in 2004?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2004/dec/23/rugbyunion.londonwasps

[DGP Wasp]

According to RugbyPass "The last occasion EPCR heard a similar misconduct case, Scarlets were fined €10,000 – a punishment suspended for two years – and the result of their match – a 14-64 Januaruy 2016 pool stage defeat to Racing – was allowed to stand." so [sadly] looks like they won't get dumped out

But Sarries operate under completely different rules to everyone else so who knows??

[Davidabricot]

At this stage, they should create their own sport or to destroy the club. What will be the next step?

[FishingWasp]

Even if there was an "oversight" or "administrative error" (again!), I cannot believe that the player himself did not know when his work permit was up! if he didn't remind his employers (who would in any case know the expiry date) then he should be booted out of the country, and if he did then this is a flagrant breach of employment law by Sarries! Could be some interesting interviews from our government agencies!

How can anyone have any sympathy for Sarries? - apart from catering staff, groundsmen etc who may have been unaware of matters, and long suffering fans (both of them)

[Tervueren]

According to RugbyPass "The last occasion EPCR heard a similar misconduct case, Scarlets were fined €10,000 – a punishment suspended for two years – and the result of their match – a 14-64 Januaruy 2016 pool stage defeat to Racing – was allowed to stand." so [sadly] looks like they won't get dumped out

Or they may get the same treatment we got in 2004?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2004/dec/23/rugbyunion.londonwasps

in 2016 "Wing Jacob Cowley featured on the bench for the West Wales outfit but did not come on the field of play during the 64-14 defeat " so the Saracens case might be seen as worse as the player came off the bench.

[DGP Wasp]

According to RugbyPass "The last occasion EPCR heard a similar misconduct case, Scarlets were fined €10,000 – a punishment suspended for two years – and the result of their match – a 14-64 Januaruy 2016 pool stage defeat to Racing – was allowed to stand." so [sadly] looks like they won't get dumped out

Or they may get the same treatment we got in 2004?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2004/dec/23/rugbyunion.londonwasps

in 2016 "Wing Jacob Cowley featured on the bench for the West Wales outfit but did not come on the field of play during the 64-14 defeat " so the Saracens case might be seen as worse as the player came off the bench.

Interesting.  Good research!
So the precedent may well in fact be Jonny Barrett in 04.

[RBB]

More Cheaters than The Serengeti....

[DGP Wasp]

There is a more recent precedent when Grenoble did similar in 2012.

https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12040/8330358/Amlin-Challenge-Cup-Grenoble-docked-four-points-for-fielding-ineligible-player

A similar outcome this evening would drop Sarries out of the quarter final places.  Glasgow would be the beneficiaries.  Racing would climb up the seedings too, and shake the draw up massively, but simplest solution would be for Glasgow simply to take Sarries' place.

We will find out later.  Nige had better pour himself a stiff drink!

[Neils]

Racing 92 issued a fairly pointed statement. Reminding the organisation that in Top14 the club transgressing are reduced in points and the other club is given +5 points. Also angry that they were not informed which seems strange.

[RBB]

Spoiler

And now being thumped by Sharks in the Premiership Cup