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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2020, 09:18:05 PM »
Think he's a bit harsh on quite a few there. Alo worth more than 6 given the scrum threat Bath bring (when contested). Also thought Minozzi made good yards.

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2020, 09:24:50 PM »
Think he's a bit harsh on quite a few there. Alo worth more than 6 given the scrum threat Bath bring (when contested). Also thought Minozzi made good yards.

Biyi was subbed off when the scrums went uncontested. Massive prop not needed. Bath on the other hand seemed to think they needed their big props on until late in the game. Why?
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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2020, 09:49:50 PM »
Yes, no idea. Tactically they were a bit naive overall in sticking with their initial plan throughout. The pleasing thing was after the first 10 we'd upped our intensity to a level where we were dominating anyway so even in a "straight" game I thought we had the beating of them.

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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2020, 10:18:43 PM »
I think Baths biggest props are still arguably their best tackling and running props, so I do get it.

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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2020, 10:41:36 PM »
Will Stuart wasn't happy - but I suppose he wouldn't be, would he.

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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2020, 10:47:02 PM »
I think Baths biggest props are still arguably their best tackling and running props, so I do get it.

Didn't do them much good, did it?
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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2020, 07:13:44 AM »
Before the game the Bath board was laughing at us for being unable to hold on to Obano and Stuart - not laughing now!
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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2020, 09:05:29 AM »
I agree with Bobby’s review of JTA.

He gives too many penalties away and doesn’t seem to listen to the messages re: discipline.

Wake up JTA.

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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2020, 09:14:37 AM »
I'm not really sure what the issue is with JTA, for years we've all been bemoaning the fact that we've lacked the edge other teams had. That out whole squad were just too nice.

Now we have a prop who can scrummage, play in the loose, and riles other teams we want him to stop?

You can't be the enforcer without skating close to the edge. He adds more than he loses in my opinion.
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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2020, 09:33:30 AM »
I'm not really sure what the issue is with JTA, for years we've all been bemoaning the fact that we've lacked the edge other teams had. That out whole squad were just too nice.

Now we have a prop who can scrummage, play in the loose, and riles other teams we want him to stop?

You can't be the enforcer without skating close to the edge. He adds more than he loses in my opinion.

This. I enjoy his enthusiasm. Live you can hear him over the Ricoh crowd. Yes he gives some silly penalties away but it seems to be mostly when he starts off. However he is nowhere near the penalty machine Hughes was.
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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2020, 09:34:17 AM »
how many penalties did JTA actually give away?

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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2020, 09:55:05 AM »
Two, same as Gaskell and Zach.

In total since the restart we've conceded 50 penalties. JTA has conceded the most (6), with Gaskell, Taylor and Jack next on four. Shields and Young on 3.

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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2020, 10:00:13 AM »
Two, same as Gaskell and Zach.

In total since the restart we've conceded 50 penalties. JTA has conceded the most (6), with Gaskell, Taylor and Jack next on four. Shields and Young on 3.

One of Gaskells was when Barnes called 'ball available' and Jamma took him at his word and got penalised. So I would say that one was definitely not his fault.
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Re: 'England star in waiting' - Bobby's Player Ratings
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2020, 11:03:07 AM »
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One of Gaskells was when Barnes called 'ball available' and Jamma took him at his word and got penalised. So I would say that one was definitely not his fault.

I thought that was particularly daft. Barnes said it was available, as in the scrum half has access to it. He didn't say the ball was out, and it clearly wasn't out!