For those who are masochistic enough to enjoy the near ruck by ruck breakdown, I've made it a bit easier to read:
0.15 Robshaw straight off his feet, potentially shoved off by the rest
0.3 CR didn't do much, but enough for Ireland to know they need to commit.
1.06
1.15 Because we committed 4 men to the previous ruck, the forwards are still coming around, we pass a long way back to May as first receiver, who passes even deeper. So we lose 5m.
1.21 Kruis clears out the 7 who's doing absolutely nothing at the side of the ruck, not involved, completely unncessary and just needlessly takes himself out the game and offside.
1.49 Not bad from Hask, didn't get the turnover, but ensured he required a good clearout. 3 forwards do easily clear him though, unsurprisingly.
2.03 Simmonds just sort of bounces off of POMs leg there. No impact.
2.16 Better from Simmonds, but still too easily shifted, Itoje tries a nudge, but it was a pointless exercise.
2.38 Simmonds gets very low and gets Hendersons arms off. Not a powerful clearout, but it did the job, wouldn't work on the likes of Bastareud, but good against the taller jackal, also means he's not taking himself out of the game by rolling them off.
2.44 OK ball, pass to Farrell, defence are watching him but already drifting. He sends it very deep to May, and we're already looking at attacking a 4v3, unfortunately it's the defence with 4, and more drifitng. May makes sure he gives it quite early too, so that Daly can face a solid defensive line with virtually no support instead. Daly picks a great option to kick it through about 7m out.
3.27 More hassling from Robshaw, not massively effective, but more keeping in the Irish heads.
3.58
4.03 If Hartley hadn't hit that line with such huge pace, he'd have got a 1 for the carry. Gets dumped backwards.
4.1 Itoje and Simmonds both there at a similar time, Itoje was with Kruis helping drive through. That's basically a 4 man pod. Farrell kicks that, I know it wasn't great ball, but he's got 4 backs outside him, all dangerous runners. If he'd ran that straight and passed it to Joseph, the defence would have been fixed by Teo inside and Watson and May could have perhaps have made something. Instead Farrell just gives the ball away really, and then gives away the penalty. Late? Maybe, maybe not, but it was always going to be contentious, and if you give the man with a whistle a chance to blow it, it's your own fault.
5.33
7.07 Robshaw is working hard here after a good chase and tackle by Daly.
7.55 Following this, Hask passes the ball pack (no one expects it, so the defence is fixed), ball goes to Teo. Quick hands here sees Joseph with an outside arc to fix the winger, and Daly free to have a go at the full back. Watson could have also managed to go outside rather than in. Instead Teo just runs into 2 Irishmen.
8.05
8.12 Haskell doesn't clear POM, but Itoje manages to come in. That was a good carry, but we're just not close enough to support.
8.25 We actually win a turnover here, because Ireland come straight off their feet, I'm not willing to give KS the turnover here, but in going for the ball he clearly showed the ref the offence.
12.11
12.43
12.57
13.03
13.14 Do we really need 4 forwards to clear a positive carry with no Irishmen competing for the ball? Having used too many resources in the breakdown, and our attack in disarray, I guess a kick is the best choice, despite what should have been half decent attacking ball. Farrell instead decides the best option is to boot it long, unfortunately, under no pressure whatsoever, he hits a near stationary Haskell.
15.01
15.11
15.18 Robshaw tries to get in position, and needs clearing out, but was never in on the ball tor eally slow things.
15.28
15.38 Though not on the ball, definitely a good time to have a nibble after Ireland have just made good yards.
15.48 Again, ireland make a few yards and Haskell whilst not on the ball, probably helps slow things a little.
16.1 Another attempt from Robshaw to just slow it down a tiny bit. Kruis isn't needed and really is wasted hitting that, taking himself out of the defensive line.
16.23 Hartley was on the ball and needed clearing, not the most effective slowdown, but just scores a 3.
16.4 A word on Haskell here, tackle is called whilst Hask and Itoje are on their feet, Itoje lets go, Hask smartly falls down onto the player to prevent him doing anything tricky, then back to his feet to compete.
19.33
19.44 Ball goes wide here, Joseph manages to do OK, Teo first man in to support, and Haskell comes across the pitch to offer further support.
19.55
19.59
20.19 Would like to give Robshaw -1 here. Sinckler was over the ball, Robshaw comes in as well and instead of supporting Sinckler, flops on top of him and also goes for the ball, which takes Sinckler off his feet, conceeding the pen. That was Robshaws screw up.
22.05
22.15 Playing on our own line, so definitely want to heavily resource this, but we seem to get in each others way intially. Secured the ball though, and it was to be kicked out regardless.
23.52 Fantastic take by Daly on the restart, then makes good positive yards, clearout is all over the shop, but it's fast, and Simmonds keeps things going by taking it up again.
23.56 Slowed down because we aren't quick enough to organise our attack, Mako has to carry into heavy traffic.
24.03 The backs still aren't in place, so instead of being able to produce a good attack in the backs, we send Watson away with a slim chance, but no support.
24.12 JJ in first, Hartley with a good effort to get across to support, Itoje gets across, so he can stand behind the scrum half, acheiving nothing.
24.18
24.24
24.3
24.43
24.45 For some reason, despite our supporting players, Hask and Itoje, being off their feet (trying to stop the maul, fair enough) the ref kindly tells Best to not go for the ball.
29.06 Would love to know what was supposed to happen in that lineout, but we lost it, and the chance to score. Argument for a pen try to go along with the yellow for POM earlier?
29.25
29.58 JJ slips. After this though, Farrell makes a great break, why isn't he using this running game more. Yes, if he tries it more, defences will give him less space, but it'll help everyone else out so much more.
30.08 OF with the break, but AJ is the guy who has it when the ruck is formed... an issue with scoring carries here, since offloads avoid the ruck. In terms of Watsons personal carry, it wasn't a 5, it was a 2/3 I reckon, but in terms of what we were working with with regards to go forwards ball, it was a 5. Going to need to think about the system here for the future.
30.11
30.15
30.26
30.3
30.38 After this ruck, Farrell takes the ball deep, never even looks like running forwards, crabs twice and passes, the defence has no interest in him and is drifting easily. Farrell could have easily fixed that defence, and we'd not have needed to work so deep, with Daly coming round at pace, potentially had a nice attack. Instead Joseph slips.
30.45
30.49 Stupid by Simmonds, he's the sole support for the Joseph carry, and then decides to carry himself. Isolated, we thankfully manage to keep the ball, but just because Ireland missed a chance, doesn't make it OK.
30.57
31.02
31.08 We get the advantage, and it was a mess, but there's 6 forwards in there, with Hartley standing next to it too. Free play for Farrell to dink through there and Daly scores.
33.4 Box kick from the restart, hence all the players in.
33.56
34.45 Hate this attitude. OK, Hask isn't the best over the ball, but there's a clear opportunity for him to get into the breakdown as he does, and someone (no good at recognising the voice) is telling him to leave it.
34.49
35.23 Dirty by Robshaw, took out Murray on the box kick with no chance of blocking the kick.
36.04 Hartley shoves Mako off his feet, bad play, could have technically been done for going off feet. Just not supporting each other in the breakdown, working as individuals.
36.09 Kruis passes from the base for some reason, leaving Itoje static, reaching up, and Irish defenders rapidly on him. Thankfully support is good.
40.53
41.13 Again Robshaw pushes his own man off his feet, a bit more forgivable this time, as he may not have expected Mako to get back onto his feet.
41.2
HT The Irish really haven't been going for many turnovers, whilst England have been more heavily resourcing rucks I believe. Eddie reacting to previous games, and Schmidt pre-empting Eddie?
40.1 Robshaw tugging and pushing, not having much effect, but surely not illegal, ref tells him to stop?
40.26
40.32
40.51
40.57
41.03
41.08
42.13
42.19
42.25 How Sinckler wasn't done for obstruction there I don't know, Robshaw takes advantage of the hole with a big carry.
42.35 That's what I want! Farrell takes the ball to the line, with Teo running a hard line too, completely fixes the defences and leaves some space on the outside. Not sure what Daly was supposed to be doing, but regardless, when the defence is fixed it looked a lot better.
42.43
42.48 OF runs himself, doesn't make much yardage, but happy with that.
42.53
42.59 Making some nice yardage in these phases
43.06 Poor carry from Kruis, Hartley off clearing out someone irrelevant, not even at the ruck really. Momentum lost a bit
43.12
43.19 A few not so great carries, slowing us right down.
43.29 No forwards involved. Better from Farrell again, went forward, fixed the defence and passed, BT with a very good carry, easily secured by the backs, but then Farrell gets stuck at 9 with Wiggles next to him, causes a small issue in the next pass and May loses his feet.
43.33 Next attack sees Farrell fling it out to Daly, with the rush out, Kruis may have been the better option, he could have put it through the hands. Think that was unnecessary from Farrell, we weren't doing badly and Daly wasn't in the clear.
44.29
44.35 Cheeky pick and go from May, but almost gets isolated, Wiggles has to go in to help clear. Mako with a good pick and go after though.
44.4 Maro straight off his feet, ref could have easily blown for that.
44.46
44.54
45.02 Hask taking someone who is nothing to do with the ruck.
45.07 The attack is so slow to organise after this ruck.
45.16
45.22
45.29
45.4 May picked up and dumped back, thankfully the backs secure it.
45.49
45.59
46.08
46.14
46.22 Sorry, but that is not a neck roll. AR just did what Kearney told him.
46.26
47.44
48.01 May is taken out in the air due to the contest, harsh to score it a 1.
48.15 Simmonds is technically first man, but he just runs over the top and a long way past, so not actually part of the ruck at all.
50.58
51.5 Though only scored a 2, that carry from Brown was after recovering a kick, huge effort to stay on his feet for his support.
52 Box kick
53.27 Lovely set piece play by JJ at first receiver, and Farrell with quick hands to Daly.
53.33
53.4
53.45
53.55 Farrell once again reverting back to not fixing defence, meaning we're playing a forward runner, just starting 10m further back than we need to.
53.59 We get turned over, Kruis rolls his man, but fails to actually stop him turning over. Scoring that 1 because he doesn't actually acheive anything, argue the 3 though?
54.16 Kick through by Ireland, Teo does well to keep his feet for the other backs to arrive.
54.27 Twice now we see us put in large numbers (ok, previous had a number of backs), including kick guards, but not actually kick it from 9.
55.35
56.2 Brown gives away the penalty due to not releasing.
57.42 Penalty given apparently by George for not rolling? Very harsh in my book.
62.16
62.23
62.31 Jamie George not given much of a chance there.
62.38 Brown gets a good carry there because Ford has fixed the defence, had options on the outside too potentially.
62.45
62.58 Great carry from Teo considering what he was given.
63.06
63.12
63.17
63.25
63.37 Poor pass from Ford leaves May rushing back to get the ball. Marler doesn't seem bothered to really try and secure it, however Ireland kick the ball out, which isn't allowed, but it's missed. Thankfully Brown wins the turnover anyway.
66.22 Restart to Armand, we get a knock on turnover from the kick, but Farrell kicks it, we could have run that I reckon, instead of giving possession back.
66.57
68.51
70.31 Teo recovers the 22 dropout nicely.
70.37
70.44
70.49
70.54
71
71.1
71.17
71.29 We go out the back, then again even deeper, ignoring that this leaves us with almost no support behind the player, and we don't work hard enough to fix that.
71.38
72.05
72.08 George just puts his hands on the ground there and waits for the clearout, awful technique.
72.15
72.23
72.36 Marler with a good turnover, Care goes quickly, not sure that was the best option, why stress the defence now, after 72 minutes, should have been doing this from the start.
72.5
75.46 Another good setpiece play, defence fixed early leaves just enough room for May to barge through.
75.5
75.56
76.01
76.05
76.18
76.3 Over complicated play almost breaks down, no need for it.
76.45 Not sure how we got that back after it was ripped off brown.
76.56 Great and unexpected carry from Robshaw there, good front foot ball on the edge of the pitch.
77.02 Good run by Brown to bust it up again.
77.09
77.14 Not sure why Armand tipped the onto Robshaw to carry. Simple hands should have seen the try scored, but we go straight to Brown and he's put into touch.
77.56
78 Just won the counter ruck, carry score is near irrelevant.
78.14 Lost a lot of ground due to Murray foul play, but Farrells pass to touch is just a howler.
78.46 Is Maro really the best carrier we have on the pitch at this point? Surely Marler or Launchbury would be better, seeing as they're fresh?
79.49
79.58 Poor pass from Farrell means JG has to stoop, if that had been good, he may have been able to put Daly in.
80.05
80.13 Poor pass from Ford sees us lose huge amounts of ground.
80.23
80.34 Quick tap from Care, onto Itoje.
80.44
80.5
80.57
81.07 Turned over, back to pen advantage.
81.25 Again, is Robshaw really the best carrier we have for the tap and go???
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