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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Gregg Wallace only wants, for his young son...
« on: December 02, 2020, 06:40:01 PM »
to play for Wasps and to captain England at Rugby.

He was on Radio6Live earlier today, and was talking about parents aims for their children.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Not the NotNots Just the Nots
« on: November 29, 2020, 08:55:01 AM »
Today London Irish play their first home match in London since the combined Richmond/London Scottish/London Irish turned professional under the name "London Irish".

First Rugby match at the new Brentford Sadium, which is only 4 miles from the Stoop -  and people were worried that Wasps were moving too close to Leicester! (21 miles)
 

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / The catepillar - my latest annoyance
« on: October 28, 2020, 08:59:13 AM »
There are various "interpretations" of the laws that annoy me no end, for example
  • not putting the ball into a scrum straight, so causing the scrum to be a means of gaining a penalty rather than a competitive restart
  • the driving maul, which is the only form of legalised obstruction still left in the game
  • the incessant running roundduring the leadup to the throw-in at line outs
However the thing that has annoyed me more, the last few years, and no more so than the final on Saturday where Exeter used it at almost every ruck, was the continually bringing-in extra forwards to increase the length of the caterpillar to give the scrum half better protection to enable him to get his box kick away.

It looks like I am not the only one who gets annoyed with it as this Loose Pass articled by Lawrence Nolan from Planet Rugby shows:

The end of the caterpillar

Nearly every law update, every reinforcement of existing laws, every tweak to the regulations covering game play, is designed to do one of three things: make the game safer, improve the flow of the game for the fans, and help referees analyse the game’s contact situations almost algorithmically to help achieve consistency and understanding for all.

Mostly, they work. The game has sped up. Ball in play time is more than 50 per cent up on what it was a handful of years ago. Although rucks are still the issue of many an argument and referees are still subject to deeply unfair scrutiny at every contact situation, they are easier to observe and understand for all.

One of the better ones, so we all at PR Towers thought a few years ago, was the ‘use it’ call, whereby referees would call ‘use it’ when he saw the ball available and then give the attacking team five seconds before giving a scrum to the opposition. Later, this aspect was further simplified by the referee’s ability to declare the ruck won and warn defending players not to try and steal (although counter-rucks were still allowed). And by and large, it worked. Scrum-halves did distribute quicker, the game did speed up and there was less shenanigans from half-backs.

Even more recently, referees have been given licence to be far more explicit about when the ball is out of a ruck and when it is not, with benefit of doubt almost always given to the attacking team and to the protection of the half-backs. Some balls these days are quite clearly out from the back foot, yet referees yell almost apoplectically at opposition fringe defenders to get back and leave it alone.

All of this with the intention of protecting half-backs from the ever-increasing, ever-accelerating hulks looking to bury them into the turf in the same way the players in the Asterix in Britain book would. Half-backs get a lot of slack, not undeservedly as their abilities and distributions make the game tick.

So why, for the love of Aaron Smith, why, are the lawmakers not taking a good, hard look at the caterpillar ruck practice and coming up with a quick piece of legislation to wipe it out of the game forever?

Some of the rucks in the Premiership final took a good 15 seconds to be completed from the moment the ball was clearly presented at the back of it, never mind the moment of contact. Half-backs stood around rolling the ball gingerly backwards with their toes. Back three players shivered in the wind and rain waiting for the inevitable high ball.

    The sooner this ludicrous loop hole gets taken out of the game the better. Looks ridiculous. @premrugby @btsportrugby pic.twitter.com/RRqmcUbFxh

    — 𝘾𝙝𝙧𝙞𝙨 𝘾𝙡𝙖𝙧𝙠𝙨𝙤𝙣 (@MrChrisClarkson) November 3, 2019

Granted the conditions were conducive to a kick-oriented game, but we’re estimating that three of the 80 minutes were spent watching one forward after another bind limply onto the backside of the one in front of him while the half-backs attempted a dainty imitation of Cristiano Ronaldo. That’s 3.75% of the game-time, and that might be a kind estimate.

Here are two quickfire common-sense suggestions: a) a half-back (or any player not a part of the ruck) can only touch the ball with his boot once while it is in the ruck, or b) referees should be mandated to call ‘use it’ as soon as the ball is no longer available for the defenders to steal without a counter-ruck.

Neither is difficult to implement, and it would get rid of a really ugly, boring, irritating practice from the game forever.

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All called up by Jones

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / I Missed this - Car Park C to close.
« on: October 18, 2020, 02:34:04 PM »
To be replaced by the Hilton Hotel which has just been given Planning Permission.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/new-hotel-set-ricoh-arena-19120785


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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Trivia question
« on: October 13, 2020, 05:21:20 PM »
Wasps and Gloucester were the only teams  to get what this season?

Clue: Not exactly something either would have wanted.

(This piece of trivia was asked of me online, and got it right by pure guesswork)

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Four Wasps in The Ruck team of the season
« on: October 12, 2020, 05:41:46 PM »
Bassett (be honest did you see that one coming?)
Fekitoa
Gopperth
Jack Willis

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Premiership Rugby Awards
« on: October 12, 2020, 01:54:27 PM »
According to these they start today, with winners being announced through the week.

At 2pm Tomorrow - The Premiership Rugby Top Try-Scorer will be announced. However as it stands Ollie Thorley is on 11 tries, but there are players from both Wasps and Exeter who could easily overtake him in the final (Zach is on 10).

I can understand most of the other awards being given out this week, but if a player in the final gets past the number scored by the recipient ...

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Try of the Season
« on: October 12, 2020, 01:21:28 PM »
Two Wasps tries in the reckoning (we are involved in several others, but best not to mention them!)

Nemo's try at Bristol

Dan's try at the Ricoh against Bristol

https://www.premiershiprugby.com/watch/vote-now-for-citizen-try-of-the-season

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Player match stats
« on: October 12, 2020, 11:16:03 AM »
Looking at the stats on Premieship Rugby site (https://www.premiershiprugby.com/overview/?FixGuid=19TT8896#statistics) has left me wondering what the term "metres" actually means.

According to the stats YY only made 2 metres, but on at least one occasion the TV compemtatoirs were purring about the 20 metre break he made.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Two games running
« on: October 05, 2020, 12:41:56 PM »
that Minozzi has chased hard and forced mistakes that have led to us getting a try.

He has turned into one of Dai's bext signings IMO

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Pyrethrum needed.
« on: August 29, 2020, 09:21:08 AM »
Over the lat couple of years the use of the caterpiller has become more common, but since the post-COVID resumption has become ridiculous.

In a recent Tigers match they had a 5 person version.  I was watching the Edinburgh/Glasgow game last night and players were added to the caterpiller after the ref had called "use it" (and that is another bone of contention - I thought it meant the ball must be used within 5, not 10, seconds).

We discussed it last night but could not see how the laws could be worded to prevent a version of it.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Policing the ruck.
« on: June 14, 2020, 11:57:20 AM »
Yesterday I watch Gatland's Chiefs lose in the last minute to a drop goal by Gatlands's son!

Now as I didn't have an emotional tie to either team I was able to watch the match with a more nuanced eye, and the thing that stood out was the more strict refereeing of the breakdown. Particularly someone who was acting as a jackal seemed to be awarded penalty for the tackled player holding on to the ball much quicker than we have seen in the past. Also the ref was more inclined to award penalties against attacking players going off their feet.

If this is what the new WR laws mean I think Willis and Young are going to really come into their own in the future.

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