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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Another One??
« on: March 29, 2023, 10:20:36 AM »
I hope they're ok.  I've always enjoyed watchign them and have been along to games there a fair few times.  I'd hate for them to go the same way we have.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Time for positivity.
« on: March 22, 2023, 09:30:47 AM »
As we approach the end of march we are still to hear anything.  Anyone still feeling positive?

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps to Sixways - Telegraph
« on: March 12, 2023, 03:29:32 PM »
I think it's interesting that the only real difference between Wuss and us, is that the RFU have approved us, and not them.

And I don't trust the RFU at all.

Both clubs have a group approved by the administrators, that contains people previously connected with the club and people with a business background.

Neither of them have actually said anything about what is happening, and yet we all write Wuss off as being doomed for failure, and Wasps as being honourable, efficient people who will make it all good.

Because the RFU approved of them.

The same organisation who have created the situation in the first place, and also killed off the national game.  The same organisation who applaud cheats, and change the rules for their pet thugs when it suits them to.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: England today
« on: March 11, 2023, 05:34:28 PM »
I'm quite enjoying seeing what Shaun can do when given the freedom to implement it.

As to Dombrandt, we should never see him in an England shirt again.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps History Lesson
« on: February 21, 2023, 04:08:18 PM »
The problem Wasps had is Repton Avenue was unsuitable without substantial development and access to the ground almost impossible for the numbers required.

We have consequently been shafted several times by football clubs. Amazingly we managed to win a major cup while training among the dog turds on the public park!

Unfortunately, Derek had a good concept but not the wealth or fortitude to make it sustainable and attracted a good deal of ire from football fans and London based supporters by moving to Coventry, having failed to find a stadium that fitted his vision closer to home.

Plus he unfortunately had about 18 months when all the ancillary pieces were shut down due to covid. Yes vast amounts were due but for the RFU to deny it had an impact is bizarre.

Absolutely. But it fits their narrative, and I suspect some of the other owners won't have forgiven him for insisting that salary cap issues be dealt with and not swept under the carpet.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps History Lesson
« on: February 21, 2023, 11:58:39 AM »
+1

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps to Sixways - Telegraph
« on: February 19, 2023, 11:54:33 AM »
this is all rather confusing.
Wasps announced they had agreed a stadium share back in December and it would be announced in due course.
You would assume that to get approval from the RFU they would need to be able to prove they had somewhere suitable to play.
now we we get a statement saying nothing has been agreed.....

Hope we get some clarity soon

Wasps did NOT announce anything in December - it was the Telegraph. Wasps have been extremely silent on everything associated with getting back up and running.

Certain "Legends" on twatter have said patience and all will be clear very soon.

The only way to do it.

It really isn't. They could easily be putting out regular updates without giving anything that needed to be secret away.

"Really productive day, spoke to three agents, looks like we're gonna have a hell of a squad"

"The hunt for a venue is getting closer to a conclusion. Definitely staying in the midlands"

That kind of thing.

Not only would it keep the existing fans engaged, it would let us get to know the people who are actually doing the work. It'd give the wider media stories to publish, there'd be speculation. Wasps would be current, at the front of people's minds, and far more folk would be there to listen when they have things they want people to care about.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: From the WW Forum - Wasps info
« on: February 19, 2023, 10:24:33 AM »
Am I the only one who thinks our new owners aren't being entirely open, transparent and honest about this process?

It's easy to blame Atlas after their recent behaviour, but we have literally no idea what is going on at Wasps. I am not willing to give them my complete unwavering trust just because they bought a brand.
They have said as much as Derek has.

Derek isn't trying to revive a dead rugby club that is absolutely reliant on fan support to stand any chance of success.

Also have you considered that he might be staying quiet in order to not cause any bad feeling that may damage the chances of any future club? Let's imagine that there were serious fallings out before the end, and that some of the people on the other side of the argument are still involved. How would a former owner detailing that help the new club?

Derek has lost truly mind-blowing amounts of money in this and if he is at fault it is simply for not being a bottomless pit of cash for other people to take.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: From the WW Forum - Wasps info
« on: February 18, 2023, 07:15:38 PM »
Am I the only one who thinks our new owners aren't being entirely open, transparent and honest about this process?

It's easy to blame Atlas after their recent behaviour, but we have literally no idea what is going on at Wasps. I am not willing to give them my complete unwavering trust just because they bought a brand.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: From the WW Forum - Wasps info
« on: February 18, 2023, 06:44:17 PM »
Funnily enough I screenshotted it too just in case...

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Judgement Day - or is it?
« on: February 17, 2023, 01:09:13 PM »
I would presume that there is no one to keep the wbeiste/twitter etc up to date.

They apparently paid all due funds on the Web presence to keep them live. Somebody put up the few posts to date so somebody can do it.

That was just the hosting. Getting someone capable and willing to manage the back end of the site and the social media is another thing.

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So how much money do we think Derek lost ?

Tens of millions, I'd say.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Judgement Day - or is it?
« on: February 15, 2023, 05:41:59 PM »
This is definitely good news. But I'm waiting to hear more before I can say this is my Wasps and not just a completely different entity with a shared logo.

Very disappointed we've heard nothing from the "club". How hard is it to knock out a few tweets?

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps to Sixways - Telegraph
« on: February 11, 2023, 12:14:06 PM »
It really is a shame, but professional rugby has always been and will always be a loss making business.

With the RFU at the top, and club appointments made on the basis of the old boys club I fear you're right.

Lots of new blood, new ideas, and a little courage could sort it pretty quickly. But it'll never happen.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps to Sixways - Telegraph
« on: February 09, 2023, 03:43:51 PM »
The question isn't whether I will support the club I've loved for decades if they move? The question is, is a new collection of players, new coaches, and a new venue actually still the club I've loved for decades?

In reality that isn't an objective decision. I didn't like the move to Cov when it happened, but I rapidly found it didn't actually matter. Wasps were Wasps, and nothing else mattered.

Time will tell how I emotionally feel about this team called Wasps...

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